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msmcknittington ([personal profile] msmcknittington) wrote in [community profile] dreams_library2010-09-17 09:59 pm

Avoiding ableism in postapocalyptic fiction

I was having a conversation in [livejournal.com profile] cleolinda's journal on LJ about how frustrating the Dies the Fire and other books in that universe by SM Stirling are because of the ableism. This is a pretty big stumbling block for me in postapocalyptic fiction, because I have insulin-dependent diabetes, and I basically see myself written out of the story whenever I pick up one of these books. And not just "you don't exist" but "you existed, but you died a horrible death which the author just couldn't be bothered to write about".

So! With that in mind, can anyone recommend any postapocalyptic fiction which addresses people with disabilities and/or chronic medical conditions? It could even be as simple as the character needing glasses to see and not being able to get them because of the postapocalyptic setting. I think I'd prefer it if the character was a major character in the novel who was fully fleshed out, rather than an emotional accessory for or someone to be "rescued" by the protagonist. Happy ending, if possible.

I feel like this is a pretty tall order, but there must be something out there somewhere. I'd even be open to just plain fantasy recommendations which deal with disability in a realistic way. That aren't, um, the Vorkosigan Saga, that is.
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[personal profile] brigid 2010-09-18 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
This probably isn't helpful AT ALL but in "The Postman," the narrator (I forget his name, you know, the guy played by Kevin Costner in the movie) is kind of obsessed with his toothbrush because he's seen people get tooth abscesses from lack of dental care. It was a really nice, realistic touch but not on the same level of needing medication or assistive devices to function.

If my glasses got broken in a post-apoc world without eye doctors, I'd be in so much trouble.
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[personal profile] brigid 2010-09-18 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'm wracking my brains because I've read a fair amount of post-apoc fiction and I really can't think of anything like you're searching for. Mentions-in-passing of picking up antibiotics from a pharmacy/drug store/whatever happen but other than that?

Hm. In "30 days of night" (the movie; possibly the comic) one of the main characters has asthma. They break into a store for supplies and also grab an inhaler while they're there, which he uses gratefully because he's had problems breathing for quite a while. Ironically, I think it would be easier for me to get the medications I need (albuterol inhaler, metformin) if I had license to break into a pharmacy and loot than it is now.
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[personal profile] brigid 2010-09-18 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
I haven't read the comic but the movie was... interesting in parts and awful in other parts. I like the way the vampires were treated, actually.
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[personal profile] brigid 2010-09-18 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
I don't remember a lot of what I didn't like about it, just that I considered reccing it for a bad film festival some friends of mine run. There's some really cliched stuff going on, though.

If you're really into vampires, check it out. I don't regret watching it, but I wish it had been better.
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[personal profile] brigid 2010-09-18 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
Oh yeah, there is some serious over-the-top-ness.

I'm a huge sucker for fan of vampires, in general, so will usually watch crappy movies/read bad books about them just to get my vampire fix. And really, the way the actual vampires are handled was nicely done.
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[personal profile] brigid 2010-09-18 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
See, I'm fine with a bit of the old ultra-violence unless it is specifically racist or misogynist.
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[personal profile] clare_dragonfly 2010-09-20 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
On the plus side, this post has made me think about the postapocalyptic serial I'm working on and consider adding disabled characters--something that has, I'm sorry to say, never occurred to me. It isn't a sudden apocalypse, more of a combination of economic troubles and physical and chemical warfare that contributed to a relatively slow decline, but surely people with glasses, diabetics, and asthmatics would still be around!

The main character does have PTSD, which is a different sort of disability. When I get it up and running (I plan to write it as an online serial), I'll be sure to let you know. Also hi, I know you from Ravelry! :D
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[personal profile] clare_dragonfly 2010-09-20 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes I am! Well, actually claredragonfly with no underscore, because Ravelry doesn't let you have underscores (and hardly anybody lets you have hyphens, which is what I prefer). I'm in the Steamy Stitches group and I think we might have a couple of other groups in common too.